PCT - Post-Cycle Therapy

What is PCT (post-cycle therapy)?

Post-cycle therapy (PCT) is a key part of responsible use of anabolic compounds, including anabolic-androgenic steroids and SARMs. Its main goal is to restore natural testosterone production after the cycle and minimize negative hormonal consequences. Unfortunately, many people underestimate its importance, which can lead to long-term health problems such as hypogonadism or irreversible hormonal changes.

Every steroid cycle disrupts the HPTA axis (hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis), reducing the body’s natural testosterone production. The longer the cycle and the higher the doses, the greater the impact on the body. This is why proper PCT planning is not just recommended - it is essential.

In this article, I cover the most important aspects of post-cycle therapy - from the role of hormone bloodwork, through the use of HCG and aromatase inhibitors, to the importance of diet, supplementation, and the psychological side of recovery. Based on scientific data and years of hands-on experience, I have put together a practical guide for people who want to run PCT properly. I explain the details that are usually missed, but often decide whether the recovery works or fails. If you want a full, practical explanation of post-cycle therapy, this guide covers the topic from start to finish.

Why is PCT so important?

  • Protecting hormonal health: Skipping PCT can lead to permanent damage to the HPTA axis.
  • Preserving your gains: Proper PCT helps maintain the results achieved during the cycle, meaning it helps preserve the muscle mass gained and minimize strength loss.
  • Minimizing side effects: Reducing the “hormonal crash” lowers the risk of depression, reduced libido, and muscle loss.
  • Preventing feminization, including gynecomastia.
  • Preventing testicular atrophy and oligospermia.

This is not a generic overview - it is a collection of specific, proven methods that help you end a cycle safely and return to natural hormonal balance. The information you will find in this article is not available anywhere else, because most of it comes from years of working with people and years of my own research.

PCT literally means therapy after the cycle. For completeness, however, I have also included several elements that are used from the very beginning of the cycle and technically are not part of PCT itself.

The Importance of Bloodwork Before and After the Cycle

Lab testing is the foundation of safe and effective post-cycle therapy. Without it, you are going in blind, which can lead to serious mistakes. Before starting a cycle, it is recommended to assess your general health, but in the context of PCT, detailed hormone bloodwork is especially important.

Why is bloodwork so important?

  • It allows you to establish your baseline hormone values, including:
    • Total testosterone
    • LH, or luteinizing hormone
    • FSH, or follicle-stimulating hormone
    • SHBG, or sex hormone-binding globulin - this test helps determine your free testosterone level
  • With baseline values, you know what level your body should return to after the cycle and hormonal restart.
  • Without this data, you risk:
    • Ending PCT too early - for example, testosterone may come back at an average level, but that person’s natural baseline may have been high. Stopping PCT too soon can result in a permanently lower testosterone level.
    • Missing hidden problems - primary hypogonadism, such as testicular damage, requires replacement therapy that no PCT protocol can fix. Of course, this applies to cases where hypogonadism was already present before the cycle.
    • Treating secondary hypogonadism incorrectly - in some cases, long-term use of estrogen blockers may be necessary to maintain testosterone production.
    • Overstimulating the HPTA axis - excessively high doses of drugs such as Clomid, Tamoxifen, or Toremifene can cause hormonal problems. Based on pre-cycle bloodwork, you can initially estimate the correct dosing of estrogen blockers.

What rules should you follow during PCT based on bloodwork?

  1. Finish PCT when testosterone reaches a level about 30% higher than baseline.
    After stopping the drugs, testosterone will naturally drop by around 30%. To avoid ending up with a deficiency, you need to reach that "surplus" first.
  2. Never run PCT blindly.
    This is a common mistake and, in some cases, it can be more harmful than skipping PCT altogether. Without bloodwork, you cannot properly adjust drug dosages or assess whether PCT is producing the expected results. This becomes even more important when the person is using products from the black market.

Practical tips based on experience:

  • Always do bloodwork before starting a cycle so you know your baseline values.
  • After finishing the cycle, do follow-up bloodwork to assess your hormone levels. This is usually done around day 20-25 of PCT, and again 30 days after completely stopping Clomid, Tamoxifen, or Toremifene.
  • During PCT, repeat bloodwork every 2-3 weeks to monitor progress and adjust drug dosages accordingly.

The most commonly ignored fact:

PCT is complete only when the body has returned to hormonal balance. There is no single "universal" dose of Clomid or Tamoxifen - everything depends on individual bloodwork results.

Skipping bloodwork is one of the most common mistakes made during post-cycle therapy. Effective PCT requires not only knowledge, but above all, monitoring hormone results. Only then can you say that PCT has been successful.

The Role of HCG in PCT

Human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) is a very important element used during steroid cycles, but its place in post-cycle therapy is often misunderstood. HCG is used to prevent testicular atrophy and maintain testicular function, but it should not be used directly during PCT itself.

Why is HCG not part of PCT?

  1. Suppression of the HPTA axis: Using HCG during PCT can create an artificial hormonal balance. Testosterone may appear to rise, but this is only the result of external stimulation of the testes by HCG, not natural testosterone production by the body.
  2. The purpose of HCG: HCG should be used during the cycle to prevent testicular atrophy and prepare the testes for PCT. This way, when post-cycle therapy begins, the testes are able to resume natural testosterone production immediately.

How to use HCG correctly:

  • HCG is best introduced during a steroid cycle or testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), starting around week 2-4 of the cycle.
  • Typical doses range from 250 IU to 500 IU, administered 2-3 times per week.
  • HCG is used until anabolic compounds have fully cleared from the body, which allows for a smooth transition into PCT.

Exceptional cases of using HCG during PCT

There are rare situations where HCG use during PCT may be justified, but only in very severe cases:

  • After exceptionally long and intensive steroid cycles, where the HPTA axis is strongly suppressed.
  • In such cases, a specific protocol known as Dr. Scally’s protocol is used. It combines HCG with estrogen blockers to minimize the risk of further axis suppression. I describe this protocol in detail below.

One question I get asked very often is: “How much HCG should I use during PCT?”

The answer is simple: none at all. Nothing should be administered. Using HCG during PCT has no justification and only pushes the body into even greater hormonal chaos, meaning further suppression. If HCG was not used during the cycle, this should be taken into account by extending the cycle for the period during which HCG will be used. Proper PCT, however, should begin with estrogen receptor blockers.

Correct HCG use can significantly support recovery of the HPTA axis, but only when it is used at the right time. HCG is not recommended during PCT itself - its role ends at the stage of preparing the body for post-cycle recovery. Incorrect HCG use is a common problem caused by lack of knowledge or bad advice.

Diet and Supplementation During PCT

Post-cycle therapy is not only about properly selected medications, but also about supporting the body through diet and supplementation. Hormonal recovery requires optimal conditions, and these can be created by providing the body with the right nutrients and supplements.

Diet to Support PCT

The diet should be based on healthy fats, which are essential for hormone production, including testosterone. Good sources include:

  • Omega-3 fatty acids - fatty fish such as salmon and mackerel, walnuts, and flaxseed.
  • Monounsaturated fats - avocado, olive oil, and almonds.
  • Saturated fats in moderate amounts - egg yolks, butter, and meat.

Carbohydrates should come from minimally processed sources such as groats, whole grain rice, and sweet potatoes, while protein should come from meat, fish, eggs, and high-quality protein powders.

Supplements That Support PCT

  • Zinc - supports testosterone production and acts as a natural aromatase inhibitor.
  • Magnesium - supports recovery and improves sleep quality.
  • Boron - may increase free testosterone levels by lowering SHBG.
  • Omega-3 fatty acids - reduce inflammation and support hormonal balance.
  • Tribulus terrestris - an herbal supplement traditionally used to support libido and hormonal health. From my own observation, tribulus works only during PCT. Under normal circumstances, its effect on testosterone is almost negligible. It may increase libido, but it does not seem to have much impact on hormones.
  • Ashwagandha - an adaptogen that reduces stress and supports recovery.
  • Vitamins D3 and K2 - support the endocrine system and bone health.

Acne During PCT

During post-cycle therapy, hormonal changes can increase sebum production, which often leads to more noticeable acne. This problem mainly affects people with a genetic predisposition or those who have previously struggled with skin issues.

How to Deal With Acne During PCT

  • Avoid high-glycemic foods - simple sugars can make skin problems worse.
  • Take care of your skin hygiene - use gentle cleansers designed for oily and acne-prone skin.
  • Make sure supplementation is properly planned:
    • Zinc - regulates sebum production and speeds up the healing of skin lesions.
    • Omega-3 - reduces inflammation and improves overall skin condition.
    • Vitamin A from natural sources, such as liver - supports skin regeneration.
  • Avoid trans fats - they can worsen inflammation and skin problems.
  • Add adaptogens such as ashwagandha - they help reduce stress, which can also reduce stress-related skin flare-ups.

Practical Tips

  • Avoid restrictive diets during PCT - your body needs energy to recover.
  • Stay hydrated - proper hydration supports metabolism and the body’s natural waste removal processes.
  • Add moderate physical activity to improve circulation and support recovery, but avoid overtraining.

Possible Side Effects of Poorly Managed PCT

Post-cycle therapy is a critical stage of the body’s recovery after a steroid cycle. If it is done incorrectly, it can lead to long-term hormonal and health problems. Below are the most common consequences of mistakes made during PCT.

  1. Prolonged hormonal recovery
    If HCG was not used during the cycle, or if a low-quality product was used, recovery may take much longer. When external testosterone is no longer present and the body is still not producing enough testosterone on its own, the so-called "hormonal crash" appears. This is a critical moment in which:
    • Estradiol levels are too low, which can lead to joint problems, mood disturbances, and reduced libido.
    • Lack of testosterone can result in depression, loss of muscle mass, and increased body fat.
  2. Lower libido and erectile problems
    Poorly managed PCT often leads to serious sexual problems. People with testosterone deficiency may experience reduced libido, erectile dysfunction, and an overall decline in sexual quality of life.
  3. Depression and mental health problems
    The “hormonal crash” is not only a physical problem, but also a psychological one. Low testosterone and estradiol levels can lead to low mood, irritability, and even depressive symptoms.
  4. Rapid muscle loss, or the "crash"
    Poorly managed PCT often leads to a rapid loss of the muscle mass gained during the cycle. Without external anabolic support and with insufficient levels of natural hormones, the body shifts into a catabolic state, meaning it starts breaking down muscle tissue.
  5. Increased risk of permanent hormonal problems
    If the doses of PCT medications such as Clomid, Tamoxifen, or Toremifene are too low, PCT will not work. If they are too high, the HPTA axis can become overstimulated, which slows down recovery. In people with genetic predispositions or pre-existing hormonal problems, this may lead to permanently suppressed testosterone production.

In my experience, 99% of healthy people under 50 do not experience the problems described above when the protocol is properly planned. After just two weeks of PCT, testosterone levels usually begin to return to normal, although this does not mean that the therapy is finished. In my practice, I have prepared over 1,000 protocols and have an extensive database of laboratory results confirming the effectiveness of these methods. By day 20 of PCT, hormone levels are usually within the normal range or around 130% of baseline, which ensures optimal recovery.

Problems usually result from:

  • Using counterfeit products - for example, the so-called Greek Clomid does not work at all. Between 2022 and 2024, we did not come across a single working one.
  • Skipping HCG during the cycle - this is one of the most common mistakes.
  • Pre-existing hormonal disorders that were ignored before the cycle.

The key takeaway

The main goal of PCT is to minimize the time during which the body remains without sufficient hormone levels. The shorter the “hormonal crash,” the lower the risk of side effects and the greater the chance of full recovery.

The Role of Aromatase Inhibitors in PCT

Aromatase inhibitors, or AIs for short, such as Letrozole, Anastrozole, and Exemestane, are used during a steroid cycle to keep estrogen levels under control. However, their use during PCT is much more limited. The key is knowing when they are actually needed and when they can do more harm than good.

When are aromatase inhibitors needed during PCT?

During post-cycle therapy, aromatase inhibitors are used rarely and usually only toward the end of PCT. The main situations where they may be needed include:

  • High testosterone levels during PCT - when testosterone rises above baseline values under the influence of Clomid or Tamoxifen, there is a risk of excessive aromatization, which can increase estradiol levels.
  • Long-term use of Clomid after finishing PCT - to maintain high testosterone production, introducing an AI may be necessary to prevent side effects caused by excess estrogen.

The role of AIs during the cycle

The main purpose of using aromatase inhibitors during a cycle is to control estradiol levels, especially when using anabolic compounds that aromatize.

High estradiol not only increases the risk of gynecomastia, but through feedback mechanisms, it can also delay the start of PCT. For this reason, aromatization should be controlled already during the cycle.

Examples of AI use are covered in the article How to Structure a Steroid Cycle?

Why does high estradiol delay PCT?

Estradiol suppresses the HPTA axis through a feedback mechanism. When estrogen levels are high, the hypothalamus and pituitary gland interpret this as a signal that the body already has enough hormones. This leads to suppressed production of gonadotropins, meaning LH and FSH. These gonadotropins are essential for stimulating the testes to produce testosterone, so without them, effective hormonal recovery is not possible.

Why can Clomid be less effective when estradiol is high?

Clomid works as a selective estrogen receptor modulator, or SERM. It blocks estrogen receptors at the level of the hypothalamus and pituitary gland, which increases gonadotropin production. However, when estradiol levels are very high, the amount of estradiol can exceed Clomid’s ability to effectively block those receptors. As a result, the pituitary gland does not produce enough LH and FSH, which slows down recovery of the HPTA axis.

The problem of high estradiol after a cycle

In cases where someone uses testosterone enanthate and then switches to testosterone propionate, excessive aromatization can occur in the final stages of the cycle. High estradiol levels may persist even after stopping propionate, leading to a situation where testosterone is close to zero while estradiol remains elevated.

This significantly complicates PCT, because high estrogen levels suppress the effect of Clomid and prevent proper stimulation of the HPTA axis. This is why it is extremely important to control aromatization during the cycle, especially in the final stage when using testosterone propionate.

Practical tips for using AIs:

  • Always monitor estradiol levels during the cycle and during PCT through regular bloodwork.
  • If you use an AI during PCT, choose the lowest effective dose. For example, Anastrozole can be used in minimal doses, such as 0.25 mg every 3 days, but ONLY if it is actually needed. And you will know that ONLY from bloodwork.
  • Avoid using AIs blindly - both too low and too high estradiol levels negatively affect recovery of the hormonal axis.

In pharmacies, aromatase inhibitors are sold under the following names:

  • Letrozole: Apo-Letro, Aromek, Clarzole, Etruzil, Femara, Lametta, Letralan, Letromedac, Letrozol Teva, Letrozole Accord, Letrozole Apotex, Letrozole Bluefish, Lortanda, Lostar, Mionic, Symletrol, Trozebax
  • Anastrozole: Anastralan, AnastroLek, Anastrozol Bluefish, Anastrozol medac, Anastrozol Teva, Anastrozolo-ratiopharm, Anastrozole Accord, Ansyn, Apo-Nastrol, Arimidex, Atrozol, Egistrozol, Mamostrol, Symanastrol, Zolastrol
  • Exemestane: Aromasin, Glandex, Symex

Interesting note

Proviron is considered by many people to be a weak aromatase inhibitor (https://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/84687-how-effective-proviron-aromatase-blocker.html). In my opinion, this is not true. It does not lower SHBG and it does not block aromatization.

Kisspeptin During PCT

Kisspeptin may support recovery of the HPTA axis. It works by stimulating the hypothalamus to release gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH), which then increases pituitary production of gonadotropins, meaning LH and FSH. For that reason, it may be useful in selected cases during PCT.

Is it worth using kisspeptin during PCT?

Yes, in some cases kisspeptin can be very helpful, especially when:

  1. The HPTA axis is strongly suppressed - for example, after long and intensive steroid cycles.
  2. Standard medications such as Clomid and Tamoxifen are not enough - kisspeptin may work synergistically and increase the overall effectiveness of PCT.
  3. Faster restoration of HPTA axis function is needed - thanks to its direct effect on the hypothalamus.

Can kisspeptin be used during the cycle itself?

It is not really standard practice, because the main purpose of kisspeptin is to stimulate natural gonadotropin production, which is already suppressed during the cycle. However, in exceptional cases, for example when HCG is being used to prevent testicular atrophy, kisspeptin could potentially serve as additional support for the HPTA axis.

Advantages of using kisspeptin:

  • It stimulates natural GnRH release, which leads to increased LH and FSH.
  • It may work faster and more directly than SERMs, bypassing some of the limitations of Clomid or Tamoxifen.
  • It does not appear to negatively affect estrogen levels, which is an important aspect of HPTA axis recovery.

Possible drawbacks or limitations:

  • Kisspeptin is a relatively new compound, and the amount of clinical research on its long-term use is still limited.
  • Its effectiveness may be lower in people whose hypothalamus or pituitary gland is damaged or unresponsive to GnRH.

Psychological Aspects of PCT

Post-cycle therapy is not only a physical challenge, but also a psychological one. The hormonal changes that occur in the body after a steroid cycle can significantly affect mood and mental health. Understanding these processes and having the right support are crucial for getting through this stage without more serious problems.

Why does PCT affect your mental state?

  1. A drop in testosterone - even with properly managed post-cycle therapy, testosterone naturally drops after stopping anabolic compounds. This drop can lead to:
    • Lower mood.
    • Irritability.
    • Reduced self-confidence.
  2. Changes in estrogen levels - disrupted estrogen balance can cause mood swings, sleep problems, and a feeling of fatigue.
  3. The hormonal “crash” - the transition period in which the body is not yet producing enough of its own hormones is especially difficult, because it affects overall wellbeing, energy, and motivation.

How to deal with the psychological challenges of PCT

  • Understanding and acceptance: knowing that mood swings are a natural part of the recovery process makes them easier to handle.
  • Staying physically active: regular moderate-intensity training improves mood through endorphin release and can help reduce stress.
  • Managing stress: relaxation techniques such as meditation, diaphragmatic breathing, or yoga support emotional stability.
  • Supplementation: adaptogens such as ashwagandha can help regulate cortisol levels and reduce stress. B vitamins and magnesium support the nervous system.
  • Social support: talking to people who have gone through a similar process can be extremely helpful. I mean this literally - talking to other people who have gone through the same process can genuinely help. It is also worth considering contact with a therapist if mood problems start getting worse.

What to avoid during PCT

  • Social isolation - lack of support and withdrawing into yourself can worsen depressive symptoms.
  • Excessive training - overtraining during this phase can increase stress levels and impair recovery.
  • Stimulants and alcohol - they can intensify mood swings and make it harder for the body to recover.

Motivation and Goals During PCT

A common problem during PCT is lack of motivation, caused by lower energy levels and visible changes such as loss of muscle mass or less visible muscle definition. That is why it is worth:

  • Focusing on long-term goals: remember that PCT is only one stage, and a properly managed hormonal restart will give better results in the future.
  • Monitoring progress: regular hormone bloodwork and documenting changes help you see that recovery is moving forward, which can be motivating.

I will also add that in my own practice, there have been only 2 cases where people felt very bad. As it turned out, in the first case, the person was taking so-called Greek Clomid, which did not work. In the second case, the person generally reacted very badly to clomiphene citrate. We replaced it with Tamoxifen and everything returned to normal.

On average, lower mood lasts up to around two weeks, but we are not talking about depressive states here.

Tapering Off Compounds Before PCT

Gradually tapering off anabolic steroids, especially long esters such as testosterone enanthate, is crucial for a proper transition into post-cycle therapy (PCT). This process helps minimize the “hormonal gap” - the moment when exogenous testosterone levels drop, while endogenous testosterone production has not yet recovered.

Why is gradual tapering important?

  1. Minimizing hormonal fluctuations - suddenly stopping steroid use can lead to a sharp drop in testosterone levels, which worsens crash symptoms such as muscle loss, reduced libido, and depression. Gradually reducing the dose allows the body to adapt better to the changing hormonal environment.
  2. Better estradiol control - long esters such as enanthate tend to aromatize. Gradually switching to a shorter ester, such as propionate, allows for better control of estrogen levels and helps avoid excessive aromatization.

How to properly reduce the dosage of testosterone or other compounds

  • Switching from a long ester to a short ester
    After finishing testosterone enanthate, cypionate, or decanoate, you should switch to testosterone propionate, which has a shorter half-life. Propionate allows for more precise control of hormone levels in the blood and makes it possible to start PCT sooner after stopping it.
  • Reducing the dose
    For people using high doses of testosterone, for example 1000 mg per week, the tapering process may look like this:
    • Week 1: 500 mg.
    • Week 2: 250 mg.
    • Week 3: switch to propionate, for example 100 mg every 2 days.
    • Then complete discontinuation after 3 weeks of propionate use.

Common mistakes during tapering

  1. Not switching to a short ester - if PCT is started immediately after a long ester, the body may still be clearing the remaining anabolic compounds, which disrupts the action of Clomid or Tamoxifen. In this case, successful recovery is not realistic. This mistake is extremely common.
  2. Stopping too quickly - suddenly stopping steroid use, especially at high doses, increases the risk of a hormonal gap. For example, after 250 mg of testosterone enanthate, PCT should usually start around day 21 after the last injection. During this time, testosterone levels will gradually decline, but PCT still cannot be started because it will not work. This is why you should transition out of the cycle using short testosterone esters, such as propionate.

Practical example:

A person using 750 mg of testosterone enanthate per week finishes the cycle and reduces the dose to 300 mg per week. Then, they switch to testosterone propionate at a dose of 100 mg every 2 days. After three weeks of propionate use and estradiol control, they start PCT when testosterone levels are low enough not to interfere with the action of estrogen blockers.

It is also important to remember that with testosterone propionate, you should wait 3 half-lives before starting PCT.

Why does dose reduction not have to be very slow?

Gradually reducing the steroid dose does not mean stretching the process over many weeks. Reducing the dose by half each week is enough for the body to have time to adapt, while keeping the tapering period reasonably short.

How to Run PCT Properly?

Running PCT properly requires taking into account the type and length of the cycle, the anabolic compounds used, and their half-lives. In this section, we will cover the most important principles for building an effective PCT protocol.

When should PCT be started?

The start of PCT depends on the type of steroid used and its half-life. As a general rule, PCT begins after roughly three to four half-lives of the last compound used, once the active level of the compound has dropped low enough not to interfere with recovery. For popular compounds:

  • Testosterone enanthate: The half-life is around 5 days, so PCT starts after around 20 days. If the dose is, for example, 750 mg per week, the number of half-lives should be increased accordingly.
  • Testosterone propionate: The half-life is around 2 days, so PCT can be started 6 days after the last 100 mg dose.

The key elements of effective PCT:

  1. Clomid (Clomiphene)
    • Used to stimulate the pituitary gland to produce LH and FSH.
    • Initial doses are higher, for example 100 mg/day, and then reduced, for example to 50 mg/day.
  2. Tamoxifen (Nolvadex)
    • Works synergistically with Clomid, supports recovery of the HPTA axis, and blocks the effects of estrogen. It is an older-generation drug and is used much less often than clomiphene - usually together with Clomid in more severe cases.
  3. Aromatase inhibitors (AIs)
    • Introduced at the end of the cycle or at the beginning of PCT if estradiol levels are elevated.

Post-cycle therapy begins when anabolic-androgenic steroids are no longer active enough to interfere with PCT. This timing is calculated based on the half-life of the longest-acting compounds used. Before starting PCT, estradiol and prolactin levels must also be checked.

If estradiol is elevated, an aromatase inhibitor should be used to bring it back into the normal range. Otherwise, PCT will take significantly longer.

If prolactin levels are elevated, cabergoline (Dostinex) should be used. Elevated prolactin also slows down the process of returning hormonal balance to baseline.

Clomid (Clomiphene, Clostilbegyt) Dosing

Cycle type Example dosing schedule
Oral compounds solo / mild suppression
oxandrolone, methandienone, methandrostenolone, methenolone, stanozolol, oral Turinabol, ostarine (MK-2866), ligandrol (LGD-4033)
15 days at 50 mg / 15 days at 25 mg
Mild cycle / Short cycle 15 days at 50 mg / 15 days at 25 mg / 15 days at 25 mg every other day
Moderate cycle 30 days at 50 mg / 15 days at 25 mg
Strong cycle / Long cycle 15 days at 100 mg / 15 days at 50 mg / 15 days at 25 mg
Very heavy and long cycle 3 days at 150 mg / 12 days at 100 mg / 15 days at 50 mg / 15 days at 25 mg
 

Toremifene (Fareston, Toremifene citrate) Dosing

Cycle type Example dosing schedule
Oral compounds solo / mild suppression
oxandrolone, methandienone, methandrostenolone, methenolone, stanozolol, oral Turinabol, ostarine (MK-2866), ligandrol (LGD-4033)
15 days at 30 mg / 15 days at 15 mg
Mild cycle / Short cycle 15 days at 30 mg / 15 days at 15 mg / 15 days at 15 mg every other day
Moderate cycle 30 days at 30 mg / 15 days at 15 mg
Strong cycle / Long cycle 15 days at 60 mg / 15 days at 30 mg / 15 days at 15 mg
Very heavy and long cycle 3 days at 120 mg / 12 days at 60 mg / 15 days at 30 mg / 15 days at 15 mg
 

Tamoxifen (Tamox, Tamoxifen) Dosing

Warning! If you used compounds that increase prolactin levels, such as nandrolone (Deca) or trenbolone, Tamoxifen must not be used!

Cycle type Example dosing schedule
Oral compounds solo / mild suppression
oxandrolone, methandienone, methandrostenolone, methenolone, stanozolol, oral Turinabol, ostarine (MK-2866), ligandrol (LGD-4033)
15 days at 20 mg / 15 days at 10 mg
Mild cycle / Short cycle 15 days at 20 mg / 15 days at 10 mg / 15 days at 10 mg every other day
Moderate cycle 30 days at 20 mg / 15 days at 10 mg
Strong cycle / Long cycle 15 days at 40 mg / 15 days at 20 mg / 15 days at 10 mg
Very heavy and long cycle 3 days at 80 mg / 12 days at 40 mg / 15 days at 20 mg / 15 days at 10 mg

PCT Example (testosterone enanthate cycle)

Week Testosterone enanthate Testosterone propionate Aromatase inhibitor
(anastrozole)
Gonadotropin (HCG) Tamoxifen Peptide or HGH
1 500 mg/week - - - - -
2 500 mg/week - 0.5 mg every 2 days - - -
3 500 mg/week - 0.5 mg every 2 days - - -
4 500 mg/week - 0.5 mg every 2 days - - -
5 500 mg/week - 0.5 mg every 2 days - - -
6 500 mg/week - 0.5 mg every 2 days - - -
7 500 mg/week - 0.5 mg every 2 days - - -
8 250 mg/week - 0.5 mg every 2 days 500 IU twice weekly - -
9 - 100 mg every 2 days 0.5 mg every 2 days 500 IU twice weekly - -
10 - 100 mg every 2 days 0.5 mg every 2 days 500 IU twice weekly - -
11 - - - - - yes
12 - - - - 20 mg daily yes
13 - - - - 20 mg daily yes
14 - - - - 20 mg daily yes
16 - - - - 10 mg daily yes
17 - - - - 10 mg daily yes

Above is a classic testosterone enanthate cycle with a transition to testosterone propionate during the final two weeks to maintain stable testosterone levels. Proper pharmacological support helps reduce the risk of side effects and significantly increases the effectiveness of the cycle.

Aromatase inhibitors - help prevent gynecomastia and increase testosterone concentration by blocking its conversion into estrogens. Low doses should be used to keep estrogen levels within the reference range. Letrozole or Exemestane can be used instead of Anastrozole. Proper bloodwork is recommended to determine whether an aromatase inhibitor is needed at all.

Gonadotropin (HCG) helps keep the testes sensitive to endogenous gonadotropins. Research has shown that using gonadotropin during a cycle can significantly speed up the return of natural testosterone production. During multi-month cycles, it is introduced continuously, although experts recommend a two-week break after 3-5 weeks of use. There is also evidence that using HCG during a steroid cycle can raise estrogen levels too high, which may lead to side effects such as gynecomastia. This is why most doctors do not recommend using HCG during the cycle. I covered this in more detail in the article: How to use HCG during a steroid cycle.

Tamoxifen - is one of the main drugs used in post-cycle therapy. It helps restart natural testosterone production by blocking estrogen receptors in the pituitary gland, although Clomiphene or Toremifene are generally preferred.

Growth hormone and peptides - are secondary compounds used to limit post-cycle catabolism.

If short esters with a short half-life, such as testosterone propionate, or oral steroids are used during the final weeks of the cycle, HCG and aromatase inhibitors are stopped together with anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS). Anti-estrogen therapy starts after 3-4 days, when blood concentrations of the compounds have reached their minimum. I covered this in more detail in the article: How to use HCG during a steroid cycle.

Example cycle including nandrolone or trenbolone, with PCT

Week Testosterone enanthate Nandrolone decanoate Aromatase inhibitor
(anastrozole)
Cabergoline
(Dostinex)
Gonadotropin
(HCG)
Clomiphene
(Clostilbegyt)
1 500 mg weekly 400 mg weekly - - - -
2 500 mg weekly 200 mg weekly 0.5 mg every 2 days 0.125 mg every 4 days - -
3 500 mg weekly 200 mg weekly 0.5 mg every 2 days 0.125 mg every 4 days - -
4 500 mg weekly 200 mg weekly 0.5 mg every 2 days 0.125 mg every 4 days - -
5 500 mg weekly 200 mg weekly 0.5 mg every 2 days 0.125 mg every 4 days - -
6 500 mg weekly 200 mg weekly 0.5 mg every 2 days 0.125 mg every 4 days   -
7 500 mg weekly 200 mg weekly 0.5 mg every 2 days 0.125 mg every 4 days   -
8 250 mg weekly - 0.5 mg every 2 days 0.125 mg every 4 days 500 IU twice weekly -
9 - - 0.25 mg every 2 days 0.125 mg every 4 days 500 IU twice weekly -
10 - - 0.25 mg every 2 days 0.125 mg every 4 days 500 IU twice weekly -
11 - - - - - -
12 - - - - - 50 mg daily
13 - - - - - 50 mg daily
14 - - - - - 50 mg daily
15           50 mg daily
16           25 mg daily
17           25 mg daily
  • As already mentioned above, compounds with progestogenic activity - nandrolone (Deca) and trenbolone - can increase prolactin levels during use. This may reduce libido, cause fluid retention, and lead to possible progesterone-related gynecomastia. Cabergoline (Dostinex) can almost completely eliminate these side effects.
  • Instead of Tamoxifen, Clomid (Clostilbegyt) or the more modern and safer drug Toremifene (Fareston) is used. Tamoxifen increases the sensitivity of progesterone receptors, which is why it is not recommended in this case.
  • An aromatase inhibitor is included because the base of the cycle is testosterone, which aromatizes very easily.

The compounds discussed in this article should be used only under medical supervision. Only a qualified medical specialist can design an optimal and safe cycle by assessing the risks and taking individual characteristics into account.

Anabolic-androgenic compounds should be used only after consultation with a specialist doctor.
The information above is not an encouragement to use or distribute anabolic-androgenic steroids. It is provided solely to reduce the risk of complications and side effects in people who have already decided to use these compounds.

Dr. Michael Scally’s Protocol

Dr. Michael Scally is a recognized expert in post-cycle therapy (PCT) and androgen replacement therapy. He developed a comprehensive PCT protocol known as the “PoWeR PCT Program,” created to restore the function of the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPG) axis after anabolic steroid use.

When should Dr. Scally’s PCT protocol be used?

  • After long cycles lasting more than 16 weeks, especially with high steroid doses.
  • In cases where standard PCT has previously proven ineffective due to pre-existing hormonal problems.
  • In people with severe HPTA axis suppression, with absent or very low LH, FSH, and testosterone levels.

Dr. Scally’s PCT protocol:

HCG, Clomid, and Tamoxifen are administered at the same time.

  1. Human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG):
    • Dosage: 2000 IU every other day.
    • Duration: 20 days.
  2. Clomiphene citrate (Clomid):
    • Dosage: 50 mg twice daily.
    • Duration: 30 days.
  3. Tamoxifen citrate (Nolvadex):
    • Dosage: 20 mg twice daily.
    • Duration: 45 days.

Goals of the protocol:

  • Stimulating endogenous testosterone production: HCG mimics the action of luteinizing hormone (LH), which stimulates the testes to produce testosterone.
  • Improving pituitary gland function: Clomid and Nolvadex are selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs). They block estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus and pituitary gland, stimulating the release of gonadotropins, meaning LH and FSH.
  • Preventing estrogen-related side effects: by blocking estrogen receptors, Clomid and Nolvadex help minimize potential side effects such as gynecomastia.

Effectiveness:

Dr. Scally’s protocol has been used in clinical cases involving the treatment of anabolic steroid-induced hypogonadism. It has been shown to restore hormonal balance within roughly 45 days.

Using Growth Hormone During PCT

Growth hormone (GH) is often used as a supportive measure during post-cycle therapy (PCT), but its role is different from compounds such as Clomid or Tamoxifen. GH does not directly affect recovery of the HPTA axis, but it may provide certain benefits, especially for overall recovery.

Benefits of using GH during PCT:

  1. Protecting muscle mass
    GH supports protein synthesis and has anti-catabolic effects, which may help preserve muscle mass during the period of lower testosterone levels.
  2. Improved recovery
    GH stimulates the production of insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1), which supports tissue recovery, including muscles and joints. This is especially important after intensive cycles.
  3. Support for fat loss
    GH increases metabolism and helps maintain or reduce body fat, which may counteract the tendency to gain fat during periods of low testosterone.

Drawbacks of using GH during PCT:

  • No effect on HPTA axis recovery: GH does not support the production of gonadotropins, meaning LH and FSH, or testosterone, so it cannot replace the standard medications used in PCT.
  • Cost: growth hormone therapy is expensive, which makes it impractical for most people.
  • Possible side effects: excessive GH use can lead to water retention, nerve-related problems such as carpal tunnel syndrome, and elevated blood glucose levels.

Why Using Proviron During PCT Makes No Sense

Proviron (Mesterolone) is an anabolic-androgenic steroid that acts as a synthetic androgen. It is also sometimes described as an aromatase inhibitor, although that is, to put it mildly, an overstatement. It is often seen as a potential supportive compound during PCT, but using it in this phase is ineffective and even counterproductive.

Why does Proviron not help during PCT?

  1. It does not support HPTA axis recovery
    Proviron does not stimulate the HPTA axis because it acts as an exogenous androgen. Quite the opposite - its presence can trick the body into thinking that androgen levels are already sufficient, which further suppresses natural testosterone production.
  2. No therapeutic effect
    Unlike Clomid or Tamoxifen, Proviron does not act on estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus or pituitary gland, so it does not increase gonadotropin production, meaning LH and FSH, which is essential for recovery.
  3. It masks the problem
    Proviron may improve libido and create a subjective feeling of better wellbeing due to its androgenic effect, but it does not solve the main problem, which is restoring natural testosterone production.
  4. Potential suppressive effect
    As an exogenous androgen, Proviron may further suppress the HPTA axis, especially at higher doses, making the problem worse instead of solving it.

Why do people think Proviron is good for PCT?

Because they believe Proviron blocks aromatization and lowers estradiol levels. In practice, however, aromatase inhibitors such as Anastrozole are a better and more controlled option for this purpose. Proviron is often mistakenly seen as a form of “light” hormonal support that does not interfere with HPTA axis recovery, but that assumption is wrong.

Using Proviron during PCT is not only ineffective, but may also be harmful. Instead, the focus should be on compounds that directly support recovery of the HPTA axis, such as Clomid, Tamoxifen, or aromatase inhibitors in justified cases.

Author: Władysław Dudko

The author has long been involved in powerlifting, bodybuilding, and sports pharmacology. He has been exploring pharmacology since 2010, and his articles are based on both scientific research and practical experience within the sports environment.

FAQ

PCT should be started once the compounds used during the cycle are no longer exerting a meaningful effect and are no longer suppressing the HPTA axis externally. The end of a compound’s activity should not be confused with the date of the last injection or the last tablet taken. The timing of PCT is determined mainly by the half-lives of the substances used and by hormone bloodwork, which shows when their concentration has dropped low enough to allow effective stimulation of natural testosterone production.

The biggest mistake is starting PCT too early, especially after long testosterone esters. In that situation, Clomid or Tamoxifen may already be used, but the body is still receiving an external signal, so natural testosterone production will not restart the way it should.

Before PCT, the most important markers to check are total testosterone, LH, FSH, estradiol, and prolactin. These are the basic parameters that show whether the hormonal axis is suppressed, whether the testes are already starting to work again, and whether estradiol or prolactin is making recovery harder.

After finishing PCT, the most important markers are total testosterone, LH, FSH, estradiol, and prolactin. These results show whether the body has actually returned to its own testosterone production, or whether things only looked good temporarily while the medications were still being used.

Follow-up bloodwork is best done around 30 days after the last tablet of Clomid or Tamoxifen. This gives a clearer picture of how the hormonal axis is really working, without the influence of the previously used medications.

A good sign is when the tested values return to pre-cycle levels or are slightly higher.

You can, but it means working blindly. Without bloodwork, you do not know whether the problem is low testosterone, suppressed LH and FSH, elevated estradiol, elevated prolactin, or something else entirely.

It may turn out that estradiol is high enough for feedback suppression to prevent PCT from starting properly, even if, in theory, the timing after the cycle seems right. There are many more situations like this, and this is exactly why bloodwork is so important.

In practice, many people reach out only after failed attempts at PCT done without prior diagnostics. The worst part is that it is very easy to choose the wrong tool for the wrong problem.

HCG is usually used before proper PCT, not together with Clomid or Tamoxifen. Its role is to stimulate the testes to resume activity, especially when they are clearly "dormant" after the cycle and testosterone production is practically not working.

Clomid and Tamoxifen are supposed to act at the level of the pituitary gland and stimulate LH and FSH. HCG works differently - it mimics LH. In most cases, combining HCG with PCT does not make sense and may even interfere with restoring proper hormonal axis function. It can also make it harder to assess whether the body is starting to produce testosterone on its own.

The exception is very severe, long-term cycles where the so-called Scally protocol is used. However, this is intended for specific cases and should not be treated as standard practice after every cycle.

Clomid and Tamoxifen both belong to the SERM group, but they differ in their activity profile and affinity for estrogen receptors in different tissues. Clomid is more selective when it comes to stimulating the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis, which is why it is often more effective at increasing LH and FSH secretion and supporting the return of natural testosterone production.

In practice, many people tolerate Clomid well, although like any drug, it can cause side effects. The most commonly mentioned ones are visual disturbances, mood swings, and irritability, but they do not occur in most users. Tamoxifen can also cause side effects, and in some people they are more noticeable than with Clomid.

Clomid and Tamoxifen are used together mainly in the so-called Scally protocol, which is intended more for people after very long and highly suppressive cycles. This does not mean that this combination is needed in most cases. After regular cycles, one of these medications is often enough.

Toremifene is a newer SERM and, for many people, a better alternative to Clomid or Tamoxifen. Its biggest advantage is usually better tolerability and a lower risk of some side effects that appear more often with Clomid.

In practice, the main problems are availability and higher price. Even so, in many cases Toremifene is considered a better option during PCT, especially for people who react poorly to Clomid or Tamoxifen.

The duration of PCT is very individual. For one person, it may take 3-5 weeks, while for another it may take several months. This depends mainly on whether the HPTA axis was functioning properly before the cycle, as well as the length of the cycle, the doses used, and the compounds involved.

As a rule, the longer and more complex the cycle, the harder and longer the return to natural hormone production will be. That is why there is no single universal protocol or fixed number of weeks that works for everyone. The effectiveness and duration of PCT are best assessed through bloodwork and the gradual return of the body to hormonal balance.

The best confirmation is bloodwork. During PCT, it is worth checking testosterone, LH, and FSH in particular. These tests are usually done around 20-30 days after starting PCT, but the exact timing depends on the length of the cycle, the compounds used, and the individual response of the body.

If testosterone starts returning to normal and LH and FSH are not at zero, this is a sign that the hormonal axis is starting to work. In practice, a gradual return of energy, more stable mood, better libido, normalized sleep, and a smaller post-cycle crash are also good signs. Still, how you feel does not always reflect the real hormonal situation, so without bloodwork it is still only guesswork.

PCT ends when the body has restored its own testosterone production and bloodwork confirms proper function of the hormonal axis. In practice, testosterone values close to around 130% of the pre-cycle baseline are often considered a good point to finish PCT.

In that situation, it is usually recommended to gradually reduce the SERM dose instead of stopping suddenly. However, this is very individual and depends on the length of the cycle, the compounds used, the body’s response, and current bloodwork. That is why the decision to end PCT is best made with a specialist.

After a short cycle, PCT is needed just as it is after a longer cycle. The HPTA axis is suppressed after almost any steroid cycle, regardless of whether it lasted a few weeks or several months. The main difference is how strong the suppression was and how the individual PCT should be planned.

It is a mistake to assume that a short cycle “does not suppress.” Even low doses and a shorter duration can lower LH, FSH, and natural testosterone production. That is why after every cycle it is worth assessing the situation based on bloodwork and adjusting PCT to the real level of suppression. The only possible exception may be some SARM cycles, where suppression was minimal and bloodwork confirms proper hormonal axis function.

PCT may be needed after SARMs, especially after stronger compounds, higher doses, or longer use. Some SARMs can clearly lower LH, FSH, and testosterone, even though they are not classic anabolic-androgenic steroids.

Not every case requires the same approach. After light and short-term use, suppression may be minimal, but with compounds such as RAD-140 or Ligandrol, the problem can be much greater. The simplest approach is to do bloodwork after the cycle and only then assess whether PCT is needed.

An aromatase inhibitor is not a standard part of every PCT. It is used when estradiol is too high and is actually making it harder for the hormonal axis to resume function. Without bloodwork, it is easy to do more harm than good with it.

Lowering estradiol too much can worsen libido, mood, joints, sleep, and overall wellbeing. Estradiol is not an enemy by itself - the problem appears only when it is clearly too high or too low in relation to what the body needs.

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Łukasz
Dodano: 2025/02/07 09:03
Witam, czy po cyklu na samym enantanie (250mg 10tyg) wystarczy do odbloku sam nolvadex
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2025/02/12 20:12
Tak, wystarczy.
Pod koniec cyklu warto podać 5000 jednostek HCG, ale to nie jest konieczne.
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Marcin
Dodano: 2024/08/13 12:44
Witam.
Jestem na cyklu od 8 maja b.r. i planuje zakończyć cykl we wrzesniu. Stosuje propa i raz w tyg.przujmuje dawkę hcg ok. 1100j. Ile clomidu i hcg na odblok i w jakich ilościach. Pozdrawiam serdecznie !
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2024/08/15 12:45
Nie podał Pan dawki testosteronu oraz częstotliwości podawania, co jest kluczowe.
Proszę zgłosić się do mnie osobiście na podstronie Kontakt.
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Piotr
Dodano: 2024/08/08 21:51
Witam,od dwóch lat przyjmuję raz w tygodniu 100mg prolongatum jelfa ze względu na lepsze libido i samopoczucie,po przerwaniu brania zastrzyków na okres około trzech tygodni libido spadło do zera oraz testosteron poniżej normy, ponownie wrócilem do kuracji tylko pytanie czy potrzebuje coś jeszcze do tej kuracji (inhibitor aromatazy lub coś innego)czy dać sobie spokój i odblokować się choć mój naturalny testosteron przeważnie był na najniższym poziomie.
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2024/08/10 10:50
Jeżeli są wskazania do terapii zastępczej, to nie należy jej przerywać.
Czy potrzebny jest IA mogą powiedzieć tylko badania.
Jeżeli potrzebuje Pan prowadzenia proszę napisać do mnie przez formularz na podstronie kontakt.
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Maciej
Dodano: 2024/08/05 16:22
Witam, jestem na cyklu 1.5 roku test cypionate dawki 400mg tyg/ 500mg tyg. Chce zejść 2500 ui dwa razy w pierwszym tygodniu, 1500 ui trzy razy w tygodniu przez następne dwa tygodnie? Clomid stosować po terapii hcg czy w trakcie, dawki 25/50mg? Dziękuję za pomoc.
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2024/08/06 08:31
Witam, widzę, że to był pierwszy cykl, do tego zbyt długi.
Jeżeli w trakcie nie podawał Pan HCG, należy przygotować jądra do pracy i odblok będzie zdecydowanie dłuży.
Proszę napisać do mnie przez formularz kontaktowy na podstronie kontakt.
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Dariusz
Dodano: 2023/11/24 12:45
Witam, stosuję doping od 2013 roku z przerwami na odblok. Obecnie od 3 lat ciągle przyjmuje testosteron dawki do 500 mg sustanonu z cyklicznymi dodatkami innych środków. Chcę zejść całkowicie z dopingu z uwagi na wiek 43 lat i chcę już pozostać w aktywności fizycznej w oparciu o suplementy nieblokujące. Zchodzę powoli z dawek. Z 500 mg susty na tydzień jestem obecnie na 400 mg na tydzień. W przyszłym tygodniu chcę zejść na 300 mg a w kolejnym na 200 mg. Przyjmuję HCG w dawce 1000 jedn. co 5 dni a po tym czasie zejdę na 500 jedn. co 4 dni.
Z uwagi na to że susta ma długi okres półtrwania zastanawiam się kiedy włączyć clomid i tamox. Przy test cypio clomid i tamox zaczynałem po 2 tygodniach a przy suscie po 3 tygodniach czy po 4?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2023/11/26 12:20
W tym przypadku należy zrobić wyjście z cyklu na testosteronie propionacie.
Proszę napisać do mnie przez Formularz kontaktowy.
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Krzys
Dodano: 2022/08/13 00:49
Witam brałem testosteron 2 lata w dawce od 250mg Tyg do 500mg , odstawiłem ze względu na czerwienice prawdziwa . 3 miesiące nie używam sterydów , mój poziom test wynosi 127 a norma jest 280. Jak pobudzić produkcje ? Użycie hcg 2500 po 4dniach znowu 2500 i później po 500 co 3 dni ? Po tym clomid 150 , 100,100,50 tak do4 Tyg pomoże ?
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/18 20:05
Witam. Proszę wysłać do mnie swoje wyniki. Podstrona Kontakt.
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F1f0n
Dodano: 2022/08/11 10:30
Witam. Moj pierwszy cykl trwał 7 tyg. Bralem teścia propionat 150mg-200mg/tyd. Rozumiem, że raczej był to słaby cykl ale chciałem się upewnić jak odblok powinien wyglądać. Jak długo i jakie dawki clomid powinienem przyjmować? Z góry dzięki za pomoc.
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/18 20:55
Witam. Wystarczy protokół "Słaby cykl"
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Mirek
Dodano: 2022/08/08 13:59
Dzień dobry, jestem obecnie 6 miesiąc na cyklu. Najpierw prolongatum 300 mg tygodniowo. Po 12 tygodniach enan 300mg e5, od 4 tygodni jest cypio 300 e3d i master 400mg tygodniowo. Badania co około 2 miesiące. Estro lekko ponad normę więc zwiększyłem dawkę arimidexu do 2mg tygodniowo (wcześniej 1,5mg). Mastera skończyłem i już nie będę brał. Teraz chcę racjonalnie zejść z cyklu. Pomyślałem, że będę dokonywał iniekcji co 7 dni przez 4 tygodnie w dawce 250mg. Po 4 tygodniach odstawię w ogóle i zrobię badania. Sprawdzę prolaktynę i estradiol głównie jak będzie się stabilizować odstawię arimidex i poczekam jeszcze 2 tygodnie i zacznę przyjmowanie HCG co najmniej 2 opakowania i badania. Potem zapewne klomid. Az się uda odblokować. Niestety po ostatnim cyklu spadł mi testosteron do poziomu poniżej średniej (zawsze miałem pod górną granicę) więc tu proszę o radę co z tym? No i pytanie czy to co wyżej jest w miarę ok?

Pizdrawiam
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/18 20:09
Witam. Proszę lepiej zgłosić się do mnie na rozmowę prywatną.
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Jacek
Dodano: 2022/07/14 22:19
Proszę o radę brałem testosteron C tren przez 9 tygodni teraz wiem brak wiedzy głupota nie odczuwam nic niepokojącego ale jak się odblokować posiadam hcg 5000lu ,płomienie,anastrozole proszę o pomoc
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/19 12:26
Proszę napisać do mnie na podstronie Kontakt.
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Sylwia
Dodano: 2022/07/09 20:52
Czy lepiej wynik E2 na dolnej granicy czy na górnej
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/18 20:00
Górna.
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Kamil
Dodano: 2022/07/09 19:23
Hej,
Brałem ostaryne przez ok.5 tyg w dawce 25mg, 2 razy zdarzyło mi się zwiększyć ta dawkę do 40mg ale to raczej bez znaczenia. Czuje supresje testosteronu. Wrzucać clomid czy jakis booster testosteronu?
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/18 20:54
Proszę najpierw sprawdzić poziom testosteronu.
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Robert
Dodano: 2022/06/20 00:21
Witam.
Zacząłem swój pierwszy cykl z testosteronem enan, 250mg czyli jedna fiolka co 5 dzień, i do tego proviron 1 tabletka 25mg raz dziennie. Wziołem dopiero 4 fiolki po 250mg i muszę przerwać z powodu zdjagnozowania u mnie zespołu jelita drażliwego. Czy po tak krótkim czasie muszę robić odblok z góry dziękuję za informację.
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/18 19:37
Witam. Zespół jelita drażliwego nie jest przeciwskazaniem. Odblok należy zawsze wykonywać, czasem nawet po jednej iniekcji organizm może się zablokować i nie wrócić no normy samodzielnie. Takie przypadki są niezwykle rzadkie, ale ktoś "wygrywa". Najlepszą opcją jest wykonanie odpowiednich badań.
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Adam
Dodano: 2022/06/10 23:55
Brałem przez pół roku cypionat jakieś 250-300 na 5 dni zbieram się do zakończenia cyklu jeśli można to tak nazwać jak przeprowadzić odblok chętnie wysłucham kogoś doświadczonego...
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/18 20:30
Proszę napisać do mnie. Podstrona Kontakt.
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Filip
Dodano: 2022/06/10 07:52
Siema, robię dokładnie taki cykl jako rozpisales jako pierwszy. Dziś mija 8 tydzień i stoję na rozdrożu, miałem parę kontuzji i nie trenowałem 1,5 tyg. Przedłużyć cykl o dwa tygodnie? Dodam, że mam 8,5ml test+DECA i czy to byłoby fajne na zakończenie cyklu? Cały cykl tylko entanat 375mg co 5ty dzień, aromatazy co drugi, HCG raz na tydzień 500iu. Mam już clomid, mam HCG, ale jakoś nie czuję wykorzystania potencjalu. Ile czasu racjonalnie mogę przedłużyć mój pierwszy cykl ?
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/18 20:02
Witam. Cykl który przedstawiłem nie jest wzorcem, tylko przykładem "teoretycznym". Proszę napisać do mnie bezpośrednio na podstronie Kontakt.
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Patryk
Dodano: 2022/05/24 00:51
witam.robie susta 2 mg raz w tyg jest to mój pierwszy cykl . Chce zrobic 13 tygodni ,jak się po tym odblokować i czy dac pod koniec cos krótszego np enan ?
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/19 14:23
Krótszy jest propionat, nie enantat. Może Pan zastosować protokół ze strony lub napisać do mnie na podstronie Kontakt.
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Mariusz
Dodano: 2022/05/16 20:03
Cześć, chciałem zapytać odnośnie prawidłowego cyklu na odblok. Mam 30 lat, aktualnie ważę około 76kg i biorę 500mg Enanu tygodniowo. Cykl zaplanowany na 3 ewentualnie 4 miesiące. Aktualnie jestem w 10 tygodniu cyklu. Chciałbym dowiedzieć się jak przeprowadzić prawidłowo odblok, mam na to jakiś pomysł, ale nie jestem pewny czy mysle dobrze, a z uwagi iż jest to mój pierwszy cykl, chciałbym dowiedzieć się jak ogarnąć to w sposób prawidłowy. Z góry dziękuję za pomoc, pozdrawiam :)
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/05/21 17:29
Witam, proszę napisać w prywatnej wiadomości.
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Grzegorz
Dodano: 2022/05/02 15:41
Witam ja jestem przy końcówce 6 miesięcznego cyklu 20ml cypionatu 300mg solo raz w tygodniu potem 30ml deki 300mg i 30ml sustanonu 300mg też raz w tygodniu jeszcze zostało mi 10ml susty 300mg który wbije co 4 dzień. Na odblok mam HCG 5000j.m. i clomid 50mg 20 tabletek jak zrobić odblok i jak stosować?
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Wladyslaw Dudko
Dodano: 2022/08/19 14:39
20 tab Clomidu po 6 miesięcznym cyklu to prawie co nic. Potrzebuje Pan 2-3 razy więcej. Może Pan zgłosić się do mnie na podstronie Kontakt.
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Kuba
Dodano: 2022/04/22 22:45
Witam,
Stosowałem przez nie całe 3 miesiące testosteron prolongatum 250mg (1 ml co 5 dni, łącznie 15ml) oraz przez ok 2 miesiące Cypiobol 300mg tak samo co 5 dni, łącznie 10 ml. Co najlepszego na odblokowanie? Konieczne jest wykonywanie badań na poziom estradiolu i prolaktyny?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2022/05/02 14:07
Witam. W trakcie cyklu jest to konieczne. W sprawie odbloku proszę napisać na formularz kontaktowy.
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Daro
Dodano: 2022/04/13 23:40
Witam. Lekarz przepisał mi tamoxifen w ramach poprawy libido/testosteronu. Poziom testosteronu to 700nd/dl. Inne parametry mogę podesłać na prv. Czy taka kuracja ma sens?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2022/04/23 15:35
Proszę wysłać wszystko w wiadomości prywatnej. (podstrona Kontakt)
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Grzegorz
Dodano: 2022/02/25 19:00
Brałem ligandrol przez 7tyg w dawce 12mg. Wczoraj ostatnie tabletki. Dziś zrobione badania. LH poniżej normy. FSH dolna granica normy. Test poniżej. Prolaktyna i estradiol w normie. Jaką dawkę clomidu zastosować zeby wrocic do normy?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2022/04/23 15:02
Proszę napisać do mnie prywatnie oraz podesłać wyniki. (Podstrona KONTAKT)
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Bartosz
Dodano: 2022/02/18 16:05
Witam biorę tylko testosteron Enan,czym mam się odblokować po cyklu ?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2022/05/02 14:04
To zależy od wieku, dawek SAA, długości cyklu oraz obecności HCG w trakcie cyklu.
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Chudziudki
Dodano: 2022/02/08 00:57
Witam. Jestem na cyklu 6 tydzień. 0,5ml propa codziennie, zrobiłem dzisiaj badania, prolaktyna w normie, estro 88, test całkowity 2830, jutro zrobię jeszcze wolny, czy jest sens brania atrozolu już teraz, przy takich wynikach?? Docelowo planuje teraz jeszcze prolongatum 2x w tygodniu po 2ml przez 6 tygodni i na koniec znowu z 3 tygodnie propa 0.5ml codziennie.
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2022/04/23 15:31
Witam, jeżeli estradiol jest 88 PG/MG to warto go obniżyć. Poziom, do którego obniża się estradiol jest zawsze indywidualnie dobierany.
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Damian
Dodano: 2022/02/07 15:47
Witam jaki odblok będzie lepszy clomid czy nolvadex ? 10 ml teść enanthan i 10 omka ?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2022/04/23 15:01
Clomid jest lekiem nowszej generacji, jest bezpieczniejszy ale minimalnie słabszy od Tamoksyfenu. Te dwa leki działają w różny sposób.
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Kamil
Dodano: 2022/01/30 17:45
Witam, nie zrobilem badan przed cyklem, zastanawiam sie czy profilaktycznie brac symex 0,5 co dwa dni, nie wiem za bardzo jakie sa objawy podwyzszonych estrogenow i kiedy zaczac go stosowac na metanabolu i testosteronie priopianacie i czy wogole ma cyklu 8 tygodniowym
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2022/02/03 09:43
Aby stwierdzić czy jest potrzbny IA należy sprawdzić Estradiol. Tylko na tej podstawie podejmuje Pan decyzję przyjmować Symex czy nie.
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Maciek
Dodano: 2022/01/04 22:17
Witam

Stosowalem sam Enanthate przez 16tyg w sumie 20x1ml, ostatni strzał 26/12

Czy powinienem 09/01 zacząć sam clomid? Czy kontynuować i dorzucić HCG, proszę o pomoc
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2022/02/03 09:51
Jeżeli nie stosował Pan HCG w trakcie cyklu, to warto to zrobić przed odblokiem.
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Greg
Dodano: 2021/12/30 10:05
Witam ,jestem na cyklu trzeci tydzień Cypio , zamierza stosować do 16 tyg. Badania przed cyklem robiłem i miałem wysoką prolaktynę bo aż 42 gdzie górna granica jest 19. Co powinieneś wziąć na zbicie prolki ,i czy mogę dalej stosować Cypio.?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2022/01/26 10:18
Witam.
Należy stosować kabergolinę. W każdym artykule piszę, że jeżeli są jakieś problemy, to należy je wyeliminować przed rozpoczęciem cyklu.
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Mateusz
Dodano: 2021/11/28 01:25
Witam bylem na 16tyg cyklu z sustanonu a nastepnie na odbloku zalecanym ze strony hcg clomid i tamoxifen , badania byly i wiekszosc powracala do norm , moje pytanie brzmi jak dluga przerwa powinna byc pomiedzy cyklami ? w tej chwili jest to ok 11tyg
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/12/22 19:49
Witam, nigdy nie pisałem o podawaniu clomidu i tamoxifenu jednocześnie.
Przerwa zazwyczaj musi wynosić co najmniej tyle czasu ile trwał cykl.
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Robson
Dodano: 2021/11/16 20:47
Siema,
staz 1 rok enan e6d , wiek 40+
dodatkowo przez ostatnie 60 dni NP e3d
badania wyszly ze jedynie podwyzszone LH .. powyzej 6000(norma do 4000)
cel: najlepiej mostek i kontynuacja, ale jak najlepiej przeprowadzic PCT .. ostatnie 2 do 3 tyg zauwazylem spadek erekcji, ... a wczesniej mialem takie wzwody poranne ze ło matko, łeb urywało.. jej.. .. a teraz?
Mistrzu Władysławie, pomocy.
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/12/23 13:29
Cześć. LH 6000? co to za wartości? pierwszy raz takie coś widzę. Proszę podesłać wszystkie badania na maila(formularz).
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Krzysiek
Dodano: 2021/11/10 17:10
Witam kończę cykl na omnadrenie 30 tyg 250mg/tydzień jaki odblok będzie najskuteczniejszy? Dzięki za rady
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/12/23 13:49
Zapraszam na rozmowę prywatną.
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Michu
Dodano: 2021/10/25 20:17
Stosowałem teścia 10 tyg i podjadalem oxe teraz biorę 2 raz HCG jak przywrócić organizm do normy
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/12/23 12:17
Zapraszam na rozmowę prywatną.
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Robert
Dodano: 2021/09/24 16:38
Witam. Proszę o pomoc. Przez 6 miesięcy przyjmowałem testosteron prolongatum 100mg raz w tygodniu do tego pół tabletki Symexu na zbicie Estro. Po cyklu zrobiłem wyniki i wszystko w normie. Jedynie LH nisko ale to normalne i wątroba trochę zajechana. Przyjmuję Essentiale Forte 1x2 tabl. I teraz przedstawię mój problem. A mianowicie syfy. Na cyklu było w miarę ok ale pod sam koniec i po odstawieniu doszło do strasznego wysypu tylko na twarzy nigdzie indziej. Zaznaczę że jeszcze się nie odblokowałem bo mój endokrynolog mówi żeby poczekać 4 tyg i wejsc na Ovitrelle 4 strzały co 2 tygodnie. Szczerze to się boję bo jak będzie jeszcze bardziej wywalać krosty? Jaka może być przyczyna tego badziewia i ile to może potrwać?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/09/29 12:56
Witam. Przy takiej dawce testosteronu, szczególnie jeżeli był kupowany w aptece nie może być trądziku. Jeżeli tylko nie ma Pan do tego szczególnej skłonności. Moim zdaniem problem jest w diecie.
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Mich
Dodano: 2021/09/09 19:54
Dobra niech mi ktoś podpowie jak z tym HCG i Clomidem przy cyklu 20tyg na samym enanie. Wyniki ok. Tylko estriadiol podniesiony 80% ponad górną norme .
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/09/13 10:22
Estradiol powinien być w normie przed rozpoczęciem odbloku, inaczej skuteczność odbloku będzie bardzo słaba. Dawki HCG oraz Clomid ustala się indywidualnie na podstawie wieku, wagi, dawek SAA i innych wskaźników.
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Mateusz D.
Dodano: 2021/09/01 22:09
Dzień dobry, proszę o poradę. Przyjmowałem 10lat temu SAA, w krótkich 3 cyklach. Młodość głupota odblok zrobiony po czasie nie pamiętam jak dobrze wykonany wiem ze dostałem wtedy clomid i hcg. Aktualnie wykonałem badania krwi, wszystkie hormony w normie, z tym ze testosteron na dolnej granicy normy 13, zas estradiol 56 czyli powyżej górnej granicy, prolaktyna 275 czyli również powyżej normy. Badania zrobiłem bo wystąpiła w ostatnim roku ginekomastia mimo ze nie brałem SAA. Endokrynolog zapisał na 3mc Tamoksyfen, który po 1mc zmniejszył znacznie 50% gineko/lipomastie. Ale co dalej z prl i niskim testosteronem pytałem o to lekarza to nie wymaga leczenia. Chyba musze poszukać innego endo i poprosić o jakieś leki na obniżenie nie PRL i podwyższenie naturalnego testo. Co powinienem zrobić? Dziekuje za wszelkie porady.
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/09/13 10:08
Witam. W tym przypadku warto poszukać przyczynę. Jestem prawie pewien, że ma Pan wysokie LH i również wysokie SHBG. Testosteron jest blokowany przez SHBG oraz dodatkowo przekształca się w estradiol pod wpływem aromatazy, która pewnie też jest podwyższona.
Abym mógł powiedzieć więcej, proszę o kontakt przez formularz na podstronie KONTAT. Pan podeśle aktualne wyniki badań i zobaczymy do można z tym zrobić.
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Mateusz
Dodano: 2021/08/18 18:46
Witam stosowałem testosteron przez okres około 5 lat , Lh pokazało że moje jądra są zablokowane , estrogen trochę powyżej normy , prolaktyna w normie , byłem u Endo nie mógł zapisać testa bo mam nadkrwistosc dostałem klomifen 50 mg dziennie i nic więcej , czy może mi to pomoc się odblokowac ?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/09/01 18:30
Witam, żeby odblokować się po 5 latach należy równolegle przyjmować HCG, bo inaczej klomifen należało by stosować bardzo i to na prawdę bardzo długo, by produkcja własna wróciła do normy. Choć podejrzewam, że do stanu wejściowego raczej nie wróci (da się przywrócić sprawność w 90%), jeżeli w trakcie nie by nie był podawany HCG.
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Wacek
Dodano: 2021/07/24 13:00
mam pytanie
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/07/30 13:51
Proszę zdawać w komentarzach albo pisać przez formularz kontaktowy.
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Szymon
Dodano: 2021/07/24 11:51
Cześć. Pierwszy mój cykl ale bardziej przypominał TRT. Test prolongatum 150mg x1 tygodniowo przez 6 miesięcy. Nic innego (wiem zrobiłem błąd nie biorąc hCG ale cóż). Wchodze na odblok z 500 IU hCG x 3 tygodniowo przez 2 tygodnie potem 250 x 3 tygodniowo przez 2 tygodnie. Po pierwszym tygodniu badania i jeżeli trzeba dodaje Symex. Kolejne 4 tygodnie: Nolvadex 40mg dziennie 1 tydzień, 20 mg dziennie pozostałe 3.

Uwagi albo porady mile widzane. Dzięki
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/07/30 13:16
Witam. Szedłbym bardziej w stronę protokołu "średni cykl". Jądra lepiej przygotować do pracy przed odblokiem.
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Szymon
Dodano: 2021/08/16 15:10
Dzięki za odpowiedź. Akurat w moim przypadku wyszedł podwyższony progesteron (x2 górna granica). Estradiol i Prolaktyna w normie. Czy Tamoxifen wchodzi w grę na odblok czy inny SERM zalecasz?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/09/01 18:30
Tu może być i tamoksyfen i klomifen. Osobiście skłaniałbym się w stronę clomidu.
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Kaju
Dodano: 2021/07/09 15:01
Władysław Dudko mądrze pisze, siedzę w temacie 27 lat i wiem co mówię.
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/07/22 15:38
Dziękuję za opinię.
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Jake
Dodano: 2021/02/18 11:36
Robię odblok po bardzo krótkim cyklu. Leci Tamox + clomid wieczorami. Zrobiłem badania i estradiol mam bardzo nisko jak również Prolaktynę. Co robić? Odstawić Tamox i clomid czy brać połowę? Jestem około 2 tygodnie na odbloku
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/02/18 13:02
Proszę nie stosować razem Tamoksyfen i Clomid, szczególnie jeżeli był to krótki cykl. Dokładne dawkowanie zostało opisane w artykule. Proszę podesłać wyniki badań na https://www.facebook.com/podwojne.napiecie w wiadomości prywatnej.
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Michał
Dodano: 2021/01/11 16:22
mam pytanie czy przy cyklach na naprawę stawów z sarnami np. Ostaryna ( małe dawki 5-10mg) prze około 6 tyg warto, po cyklu wrzucić Clomid ?
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Władysław Dudko
Dodano: 2021/02/08 12:09
Trudno powiedzieć czy będzie jakiś znaczący wpływ na gospodarkę hormonalną przy danych dawkach i długości stosowania. Lepiej zrobić badania i sprawdzić czy stosowanie clomudu czy tamoksyfenu ma jakikolwiek sens.
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